This topic is closely tied to the 7 years of Feast and Famine, however to compartmentalize, this section was broken up. Sign up for a new account in our community. I"ll keep this person anonymous but there are people who've studied this quite a bit and say that Pres. ", . No one in their right mind can doubt that this scripture is being fulfilled at this time, the only time in 7,000 years that is will be fulfilled so perfectly since the creation of the earth. The Palmyra Temple was dedicated on April 6, 2000. In fact, some are. What I also found interesting was that President Hinckley in London in 1987 was interviewed for the Church News and asked why 'the church's lease on Hyde Park Chapel runs out in 2036 and the church has no provisions to renew the lease of the most expensive piece of real estate the church is holding?' televised temple dedication where ALL worthy members over the age of 12 could attend. You will also need to know that the, is the constellations that God gave to His people, which were taken by other nations and corrupted. We know that there will be temple built (which I'm still waiting for) and that two prophets will be sent to the Jews who will be there for around 1000 days...and then they will be slain. I'm not an expert or here to convince anyone of anything. Waiting Room. It says that members from all nations, tongues, people would be in attendance. Hinckley indicated the seal opened at the dedication of the Palmyra Temple: April 6, 2000 was the prophesied temple dedication from Revelations 7 & Joel 1 where all members would attend. Congress didn’t pass the Bush Bailout, which is attributed as being the cause of the crash. What I don't get though is that in one of the recent firesides, the congregation were told 'the clock's hand had moved' and it was "only one minute until midnight". To learn more about the blood moons, which have recently been arrayed in a chiasmus spanning 8 years, check out, To set things up properly, we need to step back to the Sept 2014 First Presidency Message, ". Jubilee years are like super Shemitah’s. But I'm not sure that is the same day.as when the seventh seal begins. The Lord actually makes several appearances. Thank you for your dedication and hard work! tribulation? My guess is that this is a preparatory period for us to get done whatever we need to get done. Palmyra was the first (of only two temple dedications) that were televised world wide. But I am certainly always open to listening to various Mormon perspectives on the Second Coming. Postulation would indicate that this is a period where nothing is really heard from above...which could be interesting in regards to LDS modern thoughts on the matter. This could mean the return of the Temple Mound or the return of the Saints to our Zion in Missouri happens in 2015-2016!! The Israelite years were reckoned like their weeks. I am interested to understand people's perspective, knowledge, regarding the opening of the 7th seal. Then it continues to talk about the sealing, or protecting, of the 144,000 which many feel is the fore-ordination of the missionaries that will gather the repentant during and just after the Tribulations. In short, the story is about how, as a boy, President Monson (then Tommy) was doing service on a Church chicken farm, picking weeds. Something amazing is happening very soon. End of 7 years of famine, possible beginning of 7 years of tribulation? Could be a while. Do NOT deduce this - it NEVER works when people try this.). Either way, silence for heaven for "about half an hour," if one day to God is 1,000 years to man, comes out to be about 21 years. The dedication of the House of the Lord in Kirtland on March 27, 1836, set a pattern for future temple dedications. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, April 6, 2000 was the prophesied temple dedication from Revelations 7 & Joel 1 where all members would attend. To call America to repent, He wiped out some of our wealth when the DOW dropped 7%. And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. Think back on the 7 years of feast (2001-2008) and the 7 years of famine (2008-2015), and we will continue with the next 7 year period from there. I find it interesting all those that claimed the second coming in the year 2000, because as per the scriptures, even if we take them literally, we still had the half hour of silence after that, if I recall right. On a four-minute death timer. As far as where I stand, I think it's better to think things are closer than to think we still have a long way to go. The story starts years before, perhaps years before anyone thought to build a temple here. Prior to the dedication, President Eyring conducted the traditional cornerstone ceremony, which signifies completion of the temple. Question Gramps, I keep hearing the Palmyra Temple dedication was the opening of the 7th seal and that the Church website confirms we are in the 7th seal. Palmyra New York Temple, 6 April 2000. Palmyra was the. Did the opening of the 7th seal happen at the dedication of the Palmyra Temple? No clothing rental available at the Palmyra Temple. The thoughts have stemmed more around the second coming rather than signs of the 7th seal; however, I am good with both and the thoughts that have been shared. It was a scheduled, intentional financial collapse. In the "Speculation" section we go over the opening of the 7th seal, which starts with “about half an hour.” While we can only guess what that means, consider that if 1 day to God is 1,000 years to man, then "about half an hour" to God would be 21-22 years. When the Seleucids took control of Syria in 323 BC, the city was left to itself and it became independent. By the time the dedication began, large patches of blue reclaimed the sky. The site for the Palmyra New York Temple, atop a wooded hill in pastoral western New York, is in an area prominent in the early history of the Latter Day Saint movement.Nearby is the grove of trees known as the Sacred Grove in which the founder and first … There is a common belief among my friends that the seventh seal was opened with the dedication of the Palmyra Temple on April 6, 2000; this is due to what President Hinckley is rumored to have said privately while there. Those attending need to bring their own Temple clothing. If you found out that the Savior was already on the earth, what would you desperately want to do today, and what would you be willing and ready to do tomorrow? In the year 2000, the Hebrew sacred calendar shows the New Year as April 6, 2000. Trust me. When I originally wrote this, I predicted that the Supreme Court would rule against the sanctity of marriage. However, if one does the math it also indicates that if we are using a LITERAL translation that would mean we have to wait around 41 2/3 years before the actual second coming in that regards...though in truth the half hour of silence could be symbolic. Of interest, no man knows the hour or day, but we have some really clear indicators from Revelations and other books. Continuing with the 7 year cycles, the only other 7 year period mentioned in the scriptures is the 7 Years of Tribulation found in Rev 13, indicating that perhaps Sept 2015-2022 will be the 7 years of tribulation. 70 comes up multiple times in the scriptures, such as the 70 years Babylon had Israel in captivity before they were returned. I will also be the first to admit I am probably a little too far the other direction. America had been dedicated to God, He has chosen this as a promised land, and many have turned from Him. There are different stages to the Second Coming. Palms in their hands -- members used white hankies to wave for the Hosanna Shout. EDITOR'S NOTE: Go to Additional information for links to photos, a video tour, history of Palmyra, facts about the Palmyra temple and other news stories on the temple.. PALMYRA, N.Y. — Calling the events that happened 180 years ago in a grove of trees here unique in the history of the world, President Gordon B. Hinckley dedicated the new Palmyra New York Temple Thursday. The Temple of Bel, also known as the Temple of Baal, was an ancient temple located in Palmyra, Syria. I will also be the first to admit I am probably a little too far the other direction. There is clothing for children and youth that are being sealed. Silence = no trumpets sounding. This is significant since 7 x 3=21, and both of those numbers are clearly significant. This time we didn’t recover, which sent us into the Great Recession. See the. He then goes on to say that after the half hour of silence angels will begin to blow seven trumpets in succession, each bringing some sort of destruction or calamity in order to cleanse the earth preparing it for the Second Coming. Abstract: In this essay, I examine a letter written by Elder Vaughn J. Featherstone in 1983 and deposited in the cornerstone of the Atlanta Georgia Temple. The people will be fleeing and the Lord will appear as their Savior, they'll ask about the wounds in his hands and feet and then after he answers, I believe they carry him to the temple. This seems to describe a temple dedication. Perhaps this sealing included the record setting 34 Temples were dedicated in the year 2000 alone. Every 7 Shemitahs (7x7 years= 49 years) the 50th year is a Jubilee year. These hankies represent the palms laid in front on the Saviors path on his triumphal entry into Jerusalem days before his crucifixion. This will be the destruction of the family similar to what caused the flood of Noah, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the warning at the end of The Family: A Proclamation to the World. If every 1000 years is a seal, and every 1000 years is a day, Adam was created about 4000 BC and 2000 AD is 6 days and the beginning of the 7th day. Situated on an elevated ridge just beyond the Sacred Grove where God the Father and Jesus Christ appeared to Joseph Smith in the spring of 1820, the Palmyra New York Temple—a House of the Lord—stands as a testimony to that singular event.  Zwischen 80 und 120 n. Chr. At this moment, I have understood that the 7th seal opens up with the millennium, thus opening up another 1000 year dispensation. ", Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, Third Hour Forum Rules - Please be familiar with these rules before posting, https://www.amazon.com/Second-Coming-Jesus-Christ-ebook/dp/B0046RELBC/ref=la_B0049HJZ6A_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1511036786&sr=1-1. But that's what He wants, a world full of people who have made an educated decision on where they stand. Still in Revelations 7, when we get to the middle in verse 9-10: 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. There is the 1/2 hour silence, Tribulation, Wrath and other events that occur. Temple of Bel. Our Beloved Father in Heaven, Thou great Elohim, on this historic day we come unto Thee in solemn prayer. This photo is to illustrate the 7 year cycle, no massive crash happened in 2015. The opening of the 7th Seal sounds like a temple dedication. There is evidence that the site has been settled by people since the early second millennium B.C.E. Every breath I take resets it. Maybe I'm just not a very apocalyptic kind of guy. If you continue the cycle from when Joshua crossed the River Jordan with Israel to reclaim their land, it would go 2001, 2008, 2015, 2022. What do scared chickens have to do with being prepared? No one knows the day or hour but by paying attention to the signs (which we're supposed to do), you can figure out the season. The seventh 1,000-year period since Adam apparently officially began on 6 Apr 2000 at the dedication of the Palmyra temple. Known from ancient literary records—including Assyrian texts and the Hebrew Bible—Palmyra today is known as a unique and resplendent ruined city that preserves remark… I think this is far more likely to occur than living to see the second coming at this point. You may want to check out nofearpreps.com for more info. How would that be possible? Vs. 10, it is talking about the Hosanna Shout. That day was 1 Nisan, New Year's Day on the Hebrew calendar. They also had Jubilee years, which were every 50 years, which are 7 x 7 = 49, and then the next year was the year of Jubilee (, October 1998 - President Gordon B. Hinckley - “, After reciting the story of the seven years of feast and famine found in, “Now, brethren, I want to make it very clear that I am not prophesying, that I am not predicting years of famine in the future. During the noon-time visit, President Hinckley presented a Lladro figurine, "Christus," to the royal couple. Not possible in our day if not for technology which allowed ALL worthy members to watch as. significant. The site for the Palmyra New York Temple, atop a wooded hill in pastoral western New York, holds a special place in the hearts of members of the Mormon Church. Of course, that doesn't change that it could also be symbolically, and thus even if the year 2000 did open the 7th seal, we would have no idea what the year would be. These events are not necessarily close together though. [The April 6th reference is incorrect, but I do not have permission to give the date of the opening of the seventh seal. ", The Israelites had two calendars, one was their "sacred calendar," and one was a "civil calendar.". In my post above I said it was 41.66 years, that was a mistake as it was taking 1000/24, it would actually be 20.8333 years for a half hour if we take it literally (as two cents posted above already). I have read other comments where people are sharing that the 7th seal has already opened. I would love to see the new updated information since the last post and perhaps more pictures too. The day-long ceremony included speeches, music, the administration of the sacrament, a dedicatory prayer, and the Hosanna Shout. Every 7 Jubilee’s is a Super Jubilee year. I also realize people are at different levels of readiness for this information but again, there are people studying and paying attention and noticing the subtle clues Church leaders have and are giving. In 1907 Apostle George Albert Smith purchased a portion of the original Smith farm for $16,000. This section connects the ancient 7 year cycles of God's calendar, with the words of His prophets, and real world events. I've never read the source document on it though. Anddenex, November 17, 2017 in LDS Gospel Discussion. The 6th seal is the one with his back turned to us and the one lieing down is the 8th seal that John was about to write about when his fountain pen ran out of ink. This calendar continues to be in effect 6,000 years after the creation of the world. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. 2. Just my opinion though on how things transpire. The secret combinations are allowing two corrupt insiders to battle for power, trying to see which one can get away with more, this election cycle has left American Christians with no moral option outside a 3rd party candidate. Described as a noble city situated in a vast expanse of sand and renowned for its rich soil and pleasant streams, the ancient city of Palmyra was a stopping point for caravans traversing the Syrian Desert (Pliny the Elder Natural History5.88.1). If you found out that the Savior was already on the earth, what would you desperately want to do today, and what would you be willing and ready to do tomorrow? Hinckley indicated the seal opened at the dedication of the Palmyra Temple: April 6, 2000 was the prophesied temple dedication from Revelations 7 & Joel 1 where all members would attend. Does that mean his birthday or the day of his resurrection, or perhaps the anniversary of the day of atonement? It has been cross-posted with permission.] By I suspect that the seven seals may be counted with a "little season" called the "meridian of time" between the 4th and 5th seal. Hmm, a few things here. “What a … The 7th seal is the one at the front with his mouth open. Written by Richard Genck, Jodie Flesher Stoddard, and Susan Egli Goddard. ). The sun will be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord. June 26, 2015, that event. President Hinckley “Living in the Fulness of Times”, general conference October 2001; “The vision of Joel has been fulfilled..”, Joel 2:28-32 “And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire , and pillars of smoke. As they turn away from God, the Shemitah year becomes a sign of judgement (see “, September 2015 is the end of the Shemitah year (7 year cycle), a Jubilee year (50 year cycle); This will be the. Given that back in the 80's we were being told it was two minutes to midnight, it would put the year of the Saviors return in the 2030's. Members at the dedication claim to have been told by attending General Authorities that this moment marked the opening of the 7th Seal. Yeah, the clock metaphor is obviously an imprecise measurement, I know. One of my friends who is a lawyer for the church worked out the Roman Calendar days (there were only 350 days in the Roman calendar so every decade the seasons were reversed in Rome) and the year the globe ceased using the Roman Calendar. The 7th seal opens up with someone offers fish or if they approach to close. One hundred and seventy years ago it was established in nearby Fayette. So the silence would seem to be a period of time at the beginning of the seventh seal before the trumpets sound and the destruction begins. (a good resource but not where the anon quotes came from - just fyi). So from the above, I (actually) did the math and we can deduce that Christ will return on February 3, 2021! So, you would still be able to create a rainbow with a squirt from your garden hose however, you may not have the water to waste like that- according to revelations, one third of the sea will be dead after a massive volcano around the same time. article. ; ). 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